tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045235436087182302.post8054948427456584133..comments2024-03-28T04:53:31.881-07:00Comments on Militant Angeleno Archives: CicLOVEiaMilitant Angelenohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613730063623882008noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045235436087182302.post-32396913961538249922012-04-18T16:16:54.648-07:002012-04-18T16:16:54.648-07:00I've been to every CicLAvia at the very start ...I've been to every CicLAvia at the very start of each day (by 10:15) and this weekend, having adopted the 1st/Main intersection, was onsite at 8:45. I can tell you without doubt that CicLAvia's population grows exponentially throughout the day, staying fairly sparse through 11am then skyrocketing with more and more people arriving without tapering off until the streets reopen. At 2pm there was a ton of new riders showing up. At 3pm, as streets began to reopen and the crowd began to thin there were STILL new riders showing up (1 group who had just arrived asked me for directions to Hollenbeck Park at 3:00pm and were upset when i told them the streets would almost certainly be open there and will be opening ahead of them on their ride back downtown as well).<br />90% of people who want CicLAvia to be longer could make it that way simply by showing up earlier.<br />90% of the people who want to ride the route fast could do so by showing up at the beginning of the day. At 10am you could ride full speed from end to end without hitting a single slow down (other than car intersections). Or hell, get out there at 9am. I saw a total of about 4 bikes ride past 1st/Main from 8:45-9:45. If you're a speed demon, get out there then. We're not talking about the crack of dawn here; hitting the bike at 9am isn't that hard.<br />If there were no tradeoffs, I'd love an 8hr CicLAvia, too. But I wholeheartedly agree with Joe. If it's a matter of doubling cost, it's more effective to have 5hr CicLAvias 4x per year than 8hr CicLAvia's 2x per year. More events should be our goal. Better community integration should be our goal. Longer isn't really necessary.jeffronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045235436087182302.post-33833526462809379912012-04-18T15:24:52.276-07:002012-04-18T15:24:52.276-07:00I didn't get a chance to go out this year, but...I didn't get a chance to go out this year, but didn't enjoy myself too much last year when I was out there on foot. I mainly stuck to the sidewalks because the streets were filled with cyclists. I can do that any other day. I'm fine with paying to use the streets free of cars for my hobby (hello, marathons and half marathons). I wonder how many people out at CicLAvia actually donate?cindyluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09153325833848911874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045235436087182302.post-61987577201777018902012-04-18T13:58:34.652-07:002012-04-18T13:58:34.652-07:00One insider's perspective on extended hours: (...One insider's perspective on extended hours: (from Joe Linton, one of the organizers, and in a little bit cranky mood this year)<br /><br />Personally, I'd love an 8-hour event, goodness, I'd love 24/7 car-free streets...but there are two reasons that I am lukewarm on extended hours in the near future.<br /><br />A 5-hour event can be covered by one city worker 8-hour shift. Expanding from 5 hours to 8 hours means two city worker shifts (and/or big overtime), hence roughly double the cost. As an event organizer, for double the cost, I'd rather do two CicLAvia events.<br /><br />Secondly: We also depend on residents, businesses, churches, etc. to support the event - at 5 hours it's an inconvenience, at 8 hours they may get pissed off and we can find ourselves with a backlash against CicLAvia. I think it's important to strike a balance between giving CicLAvia participants a great event, and not screwing up the day for everyone else not at the event.<br /><br />So... I know it's coming from a place of I LOVE CICLAVIA... but be careful what you ask for - on a street where other folks live and work.<br /><br />(One other thing that I can rant on this. I am not that into folks who roll in at 1:15pm, then get frustrated that they don't have enough time... well... set that alarm clock, git yer but to CicLAvia on time or early... the city starts closing streets between 7am and 8am...)Joe Lintonhttp://ciclavia.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045235436087182302.post-53453801829040276802012-04-18T03:12:34.450-07:002012-04-18T03:12:34.450-07:00Greeniearts: Relax, The Militant was just joking t...Greeniearts: Relax, The Militant was just joking there. Besides, The Militant dresses up in (Militant) cosplay EVERY DAY!Militant Angelenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613730063623882008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045235436087182302.post-54081373932430081172012-04-17T21:17:58.368-07:002012-04-17T21:17:58.368-07:00Why single out cosplay for the thumbs down and gus...Why single out cosplay for the thumbs down and gush over every other aspect of Cic? *hurt*greenieartshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13374857049644907034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9045235436087182302.post-47706958213300018492012-04-17T21:03:49.029-07:002012-04-17T21:03:49.029-07:00Thanks for the great account of CicLAvia, Militant...Thanks for the great account of CicLAvia, Militant Angeleno! I agree that longer hours for the event would be even better than a longer route. We couldn't make it this year due to scheduling issues + the fact that we live almost 1 hour away from the CicLAvia route, making it a big trip for our litte ones. <br /><br />Would LOVE for CicLAvia to be 8 hours long, as you suggested!<br />--HFCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com